Posts by Half banana

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For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

by lovesjehovah in

jw
friends

i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

i do not condone any crime.

Half banana

Loves Jehovah, it's good of you to post and you certainly have a big response, annoyingly perhaps not from the segment of society you were fishing for but a response nevertheless. I'll admit it I am no longer interested in Jehovah but if I was gay and born into a cult which condemned homosexuality, I would feel persecuted and hard done by. I would think why should life be so unfair to me. I might compensate by becoming fixated on the object of my parents worship of Big J, I might shut out everything else and show them all what I am really made of by my zeal and heroic efforts to let people know who god is.

Please think again. You have a worthwhile life ahead of you. You are not condemned to suffer under JW religious bigotry. Jehovah I'm afraid is just a fantasy based on a pathetic Canaanite idol from the Bronze Age adopted by politically impotent Hebrew zealots in the Iron Age and their plight was written up in texts which formed part of the Bible.

You a not beholden to this fairy tale, you have a much more important life to lead... your own.

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Seriously.... Something has to be done.

by DATA-DOG in

i am aware of the constant debate about whether or not to confront jws, because they will merely retreat behind their persecution complex.

well, i say, "bull shit!

religitards, as in the case of the recent paris attacks, ( yes, the jws are equal to those terrorists, is so much as they perpetuate lies that ultimately retard the progress of mankind), must be challenged without remorse, as their assertions are made without remorse for those who are forever scarred by their lies.

Half banana

You ar right Vidiot, the belief system is not understood by all, it doesn't make sense it is not coherent and for goodness sake it is ever changing! Why on earth don't they just wake up? (he said rhetorically)

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1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

by berrygerry in

1914the turning point in history.

30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

Half banana

Nathan Natas, you're right I should stick with it, I might improve my comprehension. I had no intention of diminishing your statement only to add that the conventional Watchtower viewpoint of 1914 as an invisible heavenly event only began after that date (1927?) and hence not "always".

Russell's earlier idea of invisible heavenly events was applied to 1874 (and 1878) and that by 1914 visible evidence of the Kingdom rule would have been experienced world-wide. All bunkum anyway.

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

Half banana

I agree Jook, the pathetic squirming in attempting to correct their earlier fraud is at odds with the transparency and directness of modern media.

Their nineteenth century religious doctrines and authority will wither and die under the scrutiny of the information age.

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

Half banana

Why spend so much effort to bandage up a dead donkey?

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Why does the Watchtower leadership slap its own defenders in the face?

by slimboyfat in

take the case of rolf furuli.

i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.

so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.

Half banana

Slimboyfat, I cannot find sources for Fred Franz's Jewish scholar friend. I think I trawled it up recalling an assembly speech by him (approximately two centuries ago) where he mentioned his friend...as I recall, in warmly appreciative terms with me noting at the time the incongruity of him having a close worldly associate.

I also remember looking at the material which Fencing mentions where Furuli and others gave a numerical value to the accuracy of the astronomical evidence for 607BCE. This needs re-visiting and clarifying.

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Why does the Watchtower leadership slap its own defenders in the face?

by slimboyfat in

take the case of rolf furuli.

i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.

so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.

Half banana

Perhaps because they are suspicious of academics even in their own ranks? What you say is very interesting but I guess any insights into the Hebrew auxiliary verbs was the input given to Fred Franz from his Jewish scholar friend. (He was allowed to have friends outside of the org 'cos it was his org!).

There is yet to arise an apologist for the Watchtower beliefs who dare look into the literary sources of the texts. This would be a most enlightening development since for the first time the Watchtower would be confronted with the exotic courtly accounts and pagan myth which were copied to form much of the true origins of the Bible.

Nevertheless Furuli is an exceptional case but no one below the rank of GB is permitted to let their light shine brighter than their leaders.

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Seriously.... Something has to be done.

by DATA-DOG in

i am aware of the constant debate about whether or not to confront jws, because they will merely retreat behind their persecution complex.

well, i say, "bull shit!

religitards, as in the case of the recent paris attacks, ( yes, the jws are equal to those terrorists, is so much as they perpetuate lies that ultimately retard the progress of mankind), must be challenged without remorse, as their assertions are made without remorse for those who are forever scarred by their lies.

Half banana

Slimboyfat, of course JWs are no where near as dangerous as ISIS although they threaten the death of all non believers, at least only harm their own.

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Seriously.... Something has to be done.

by DATA-DOG in

i am aware of the constant debate about whether or not to confront jws, because they will merely retreat behind their persecution complex.

well, i say, "bull shit!

religitards, as in the case of the recent paris attacks, ( yes, the jws are equal to those terrorists, is so much as they perpetuate lies that ultimately retard the progress of mankind), must be challenged without remorse, as their assertions are made without remorse for those who are forever scarred by their lies.

Half banana

JWs are not idiots but they are often clueless, emotionally stunted and needy. We know because we've been there. I chose to be a JW at the age of fourteen.

The permanent state of denial and irrationality exhibited by JWs; is to defend their own dream of paradise...just as it is for the Muslim terrorist. The parallel does not end there. As I will be telling the next JW I meet that anyone who places religious ideals above the value of life and of human welfare is a threat to all civilisation.

Yes DD something has to be done. They must be hit where it hurts... in the money department. Why should an organisation such as the socially destructive WTBTS be encouraged by the state through tax exemption?

Now is a good time to put the case to the appropriate authorities.

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How Comfortable Are The Governing Body At Headquarter After This Massive Lay Off?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

this lay off and all the child molestation lawsuits coming to a head with more lay off in the wings.

i'm sure there is a lot of concern going on among those still there.

i'm sure a lot are finding out for the first time that the governing body are all frauds by doing secure internet searches to find out just how much they been had by these villans , i think the situation could be dangerous (the possibility exist).

Half banana

Massive booing would be very welcome Brokeback... just like they did at Romanian president Nicolae Ceasescu's last public speech, just before they shot him.